Closing The Evidence Gap: Here's how to fix the sales and marketing disconnect by capturing proof points that win buyer trust.

EPISODE 22

Our Downloads Plateaued…What’s Next?

The TL;DR

Mark Huber, VP of Marketing, and Jillian Hoefer, newly minted Senior Content Marketing Manager at UserEvidence, get brutally honest about the wins, misses, and lessons from Season 1 of The Proof Point.

From plateaued downloads to tactics that flopped, this episode is a candid look at how content evidence—rather than customer evidence—shaped their approach. You’ll hear exactly what worked, what didn’t, and what they’re changing for Season 2.

With a focus on distribution over creation, they break down their results, share key takeaways, and preview what’s next: new strategies, better tactics, and real listener questions driving the show forward.

Things to listen for:

(00:00) Why proof beat opinions every time

(01:50) Jillian’s evolution from podcast partner to UserEvidence marketer

(06:30) Breaking down The Proof Point’s season one wins

(12:10) Lessons learned: Distribution pitfalls and the magic of relationships

(20:00) How to think about “killing your marketing darlings”

(24:30) How UserEvidence leverages podcast content beyond downloads

(31:00) Tackling the challenge of LinkedIn’s algorithm

(36:40) What the shift of strategy means for Season 2

(42:00) The power of in-person interviews for engaging podcast content(50:10) Listener Q&A

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